Does anyone have the tools for the Doo? I am going to have to do this eventually and thought it would be a nice help if one of you had the tools and know how to give me a hand when I am ready.
I have them. Bret plans to borrow them sometime, and you certainly can as well. Too bad we can't all get together for a tech day.
a doo tech day would be great. too bad there are 400+ miles between you two. if there was ever a tech day planned i would certianly try to be there. would like to do valves sometime too.
i'm pretty comfortable doing them myself, but the camradarie of fellow klr lovers, mixed with the scent of motor oil and lite beer would be quite special.
-bret
My wife is a big fan of aromatherapy ;D
I am game for meeting up some place to do the doo. I was planning to do it around 6k and that is fast approaching. I will bring the hammer and some JB Weld.
Looks like it comes in a kit or you can buy just the doo, any suggetions?
make sure you bring your BIG hammer. i hear those new doo's can be hard to get on the shaft. i bought a balancer lever, springs, and rotor bolt, as well as the 2 gaskets. i got mine from eagle mike.
the gaskets are probably not an issue on your bike since it is newer. mine is 16 years old, so i picked them up for peace of mind. they usually say that if 1 guy has the gaskets at a tech day, it is usually enough, as many bikes will be able to utilize the original gaskets.
-bret
I think gaskets are a good plan. I'm pretty sure I shredded my '00s gaskets when I did mine. It would really suck to tear it apart, wreck your gasket, and be stuck for a week waiting for a replacement.
As far as hammers are concerned, I'd get a 16 pound sledge. You can never have a big enough hammer.
Nothing more effective for daily repairs than a solid framing hammer. I prefer the eastwing because of the grip they utilize on that sucker really helps bust things loose.
I need to do the doo too, and I'm at 11.5k!! :o :o
Although Sioux Falls is a bit farther than Denver so I may just have to make one of their tech days instead.
Not sure if it is possible to do the Doo when we ride in Sept?
Probably too far for those of you on the west side of the state, but if you live on the east end, it might be worth your while to come to the Twin Cities tech day we hold at Paul Streeter's house in April. Sioux falls to the Cities is about 250 miles. The state line is only a little over 200 miles from St. Paul on 14 and 169 up to the Cities.
Also, I believe Jeff Saline in Rapid City may have the tools. Ping him on the DSN_KLR650 list where he is most active. He is quite knowledgeable on the subject of KLR mechanicals.
Hmmm, well let's get Jeff over here on this forum too! :D
Jeff and I have emailed each other a few times but I have not spoken to him for some time. I will shoot him and email now and see if he is interested. He had mentioned that he would be willing to host a tech day at his place.
Contacted Jeff and he is open to it. Below is part of the email from Jeff.
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What are you thinking about for a date in Sept? Right now my calendar is pretty open. If the guys that want to work on their bikes want to do it the day before the rally that could maybe work. I'd be thinking something like start in the morning, maybe 8 am and work until everyone is done but not later than 4 pm.
Bikes that are going to be worked on should arrive relatively clean. I have a pressure washer for cleaning bikes but I'd rather not use it as a cleaning station for a dozen bikes unless all are getting worked on.
If it's only a few doos that should only take about 3 hours if they have to be taught how to wrench. If a few guys have some experience then it could go faster. I would like to know what work folks want to do before they get here. I've found I need to be in charge of saying yes or no to a job based on time, experience, complexity of the job etc. A guy shouldn't plan on arriving 2 hours before the shop is closing and expect to do a doohickey and tire change.
Folks should plan on bringing their own parts (doohickeys, filters, valve shims) and expendables (grease, oil, etc). I can supply stuff like rags/paper towels, loctite for one or two bolts but not an entire bike etc., but would sure appreciate a donation to the shop to help cover the cost of using it. I can get rid of tires for $2 each if folks want to do tire changes. If they don't want to give me the $2 they can always haul the tires off themselves and get rid of them. I had to get rid of 11 tires two weeks ago and only two were from me.
If there is an interest folks could bring stuff to put on the barbecue and that could cover lunch. I don't like alcohol mixed with shop time so probably best there is no beer etc involved. I can also provide a cooler with ice so folks can keep their soda/drinks cold.
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Basically he is game if we set up a time and we need to bring supplies and be respectful of his shop. I don't think any of that is a problem if you guys are up to it. He is on a few boards and from what I know is the local expert and has done lots of these.
What r your thoughts
Dude that is awesome! I will order my doo kit from Eagle Mike asap!
What do you think about a valve job? Would it be worth it to split a kit and hope we all need different ones? I don't know really anything about it except that it's good to do, and I didn't really want to have dozens of shims that I don't need.
Not sure I will call Jeff and ask. I need to order my Doo kit as well. Make sure to get the spring tensioner so it never has to be messed with. Passing that along from Jeff.
He said we could do it almost anytime.
Hmmm...wonder if Jason would be interested in helping me with a canisterectomy, SAS removal and jet kit on my nine-fiddy....??? 8)
Quote from: AquaTop on August 15, 2008, 03:13:37 PM
Dude that is awesome! I will order my doo kit from Eagle Mike asap!
What do you think about a valve job? Would it be worth it to split a kit and hope we all need different ones? I don't know really anything about it except that it's good to do, and I didn't really want to have dozens of shims that I don't need.
Jared
Jeff said he has some shims if you know what size you need and he will swap his for your old ones plus $5.00 each. Said need to show up early so engine is cool and it needs to be cleaned prior to the work or it will add another 30 min.
From what I've read you've got to have it apart to take the measurements so by then it's too late to order 'em.
I'll call Black Hills Power Sports and see what they've got, maybe I can just buy a bunch of singles and return what I don't use.
Quote from: Promo Yeti on August 15, 2008, 04:32:05 PM
Hmmm...wonder if Jason would be interested in helping me with a canisterectomy, SAS removal and jet kit on my nine-fiddy....??? 8)
I'd love to help you out with it, if we can figure out a place to do it (Feel like taking a scenic ride to Watertown? :-\ ). Doing all that stuff is fairly intimidating when you start, but half way in you really figure out what is what and it becomes pretty easy. There is so damn much plumbing that gets yanked.. Definitely cleans up the bike. If you remove the SAS you'll need to get cans or de-cat the stock ones I think. I don't think the cats will work right (won't burn hot enough) without the SAS system in place and will eventually clog up.
Quote from: AquaTop on August 18, 2008, 11:31:13 PM
From what I've read you've got to have it apart to take the measurements so by then it's too late to order 'em.
I'll call Black Hills Power Sports and see what they've got, maybe I can just buy a bunch of singles and return what I don't use.
I think they sell them for $6.00 a piece
Quote from: Jason H. on August 19, 2008, 06:23:44 AM
If you remove the SAS you'll need to get cans or de-cat the stock ones I think. I don't think the cats will work right (won't burn hot enough) without the SAS system in place and will eventually clog up.
Hmmm...never heard that one before. Might have to wait on the SAS, can't afford cans for quite some time. :)
Thanks for the offer,though! If we can get a tech day set up before the September ride that'd be cool. Is everyone thinking tech day on Thursday or Friday?
First off we need some more smiley icons. And second to the thread jackin KTM lovers this is a Doo topic you need to go to that empty KTM space ;) Just kiddin because we know your closet klr lovers and wish you still had one.
Now where is the best place to buy the Doo? Checked arowhead and man that site is worse than the msn group site. Schnietz racing (i think) has the eagle one for $39.95
closet klr lovers. i've been thinking that too. either that or i will be forced to buy an adventure as my next bike since my current ds steed is a klr.
i bought my doo kit direct from eagle mike.
http://www.klr650.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=125
-bret
Quote from: fringefan on August 20, 2008, 04:10:29 PM
First off we need some more smiley icons. And second to the thread jackin KTM lovers this is a Doo topic you need to go to that empty KTM space ;) Just kiddin because we know your closet klr lovers and wish you still had one.
Yeah, yeah...we started our own thread in KTM, AND KEEP YOUR THUMPER LOVIN' ASS OUTA THERE! 8)
IF I could have two, no three...wait, FOUR bikes, one would definitely be a KLR!! ;D
LOL ;D
I was reading about the 705 kit for the KLR, and it is giving me a serious itch to sell my DRZ and get another KLR. With the 705 kit and some serious suspension upgrades, it would be frickin' great. Actually they're pretty great stock, but I can't leave anything stock.
You can get the 685 kit for less than 300.
Yes but the 705 kit is 20cc's cooler.
Yes it is. You should get one so I can see if it is worth it ;)
I have seen several post regarding the dyno results for both but I have heard the 705 is FAST. Curious what kind of mpg both of them get.
Scratchingmy head. Sent Mike a pm with no response yet. It says send a check of paypal the money with no paypal? How did you get ahold of this guy?
Just want the doo kit and the subframe bolt upgrade hit. I was thinking about the risers but still thinking on those.
just figure out what everything will cost and paypal him the money. i include a description of what i am buying from him in the paypal message thing. he will send out asap, or will let you know if something is on backorder. he ships out so much stuff that he doesn't pm much or communicate a lot regarding orders. he just ships them out as he gets paid.
sounds sketchy, but he is a stand up top notch guy.
i've ordered things from him on at least 4 or 5 occassions with no problems at all.
-bret
I was not sure what his Pay pal was so I found his email on his website and used that which worked. Once payment was made he responded right away for a shipping cost.
Sounds like there is some bad blood between him, arrowhead, and klr650.com. I understand both side of the argument but when a guy takes Kawi's design and makes it better and then someone does it to him but makes it cheaper, I find it hypocritical. I know that when it comes to the Doo, better to just buy from Mike. I would rather have saved $20 on the cheap eBay rising links.
Any company that sells parts for less money help's control costs across the board and their is nothing wrong with capitalism. Kind of a sore subject on KLR650.net
While I really like 650.net, I find it f'n ridiculous how hypocritical that site is some times. The site owner prevents you from mentioning 650.com - the name actually gets bleeped (*****) out if you type it, and the reason is 650.com has a bad habit of taking good designs / good selling products and having them made in China. Now, I agree that sucks, but what's funny is the same guy was trying to get some deal going selling Chinese 4 wheelers. Yes, of course those Chinese 4 wheelers are original designs. They couldn't possibly be knock-offs of Hondas could they?
And of course if he ever sees this I'll be banned from there. LOL! ;D ;D
I wrote a response similar to what I wrote and was suprised I did not get banned. Glenn did close the thread after a nasty response though. I have found that more people sell used stuff which of interest to me but other than that it is not a great place for a new rider to get info. Lots of haten on that site and it is not good for the soul.
Do we have a solid date for this tech day?
He said this week works but does not care to do it during labor day weekend. I am just waiting for my parts to get in and I will give him a call. I would like to do it Wed or Thur this week.
Would next Wed or Thu work for you? I just ordered mine 2nite. :(
This Wed or Thursday afternoon works good for me, this weekend I'll be in Douglas WY at the free Appleseed Shoot (http://www.appleseedinfo.org/as_faq.htm). Next week is pretty open too.
Jeff actually emailed me today but I have not recvieved any of my stuff yet ???
Weird, I got mine from Mike on Saturday. ??? ???