** No longer for sale **
** This thread is now dedicated to the ongoing DRZ vs KLR flame war **
Located in Watertown SD
Nearly new knobby on front (IRC something or other, not street legal)
Brand spanking new Kenda K270 on the back.
4 Gal Clarke fuel tank, stock tank included
New this year lithium battery
Moose skid plate
Acerbis knock off bark busters
Renthal bars
Recent oil change
2K miles on valve check
Clymer manual included
Homemade (crappy looking but functional) rear rack with Pelican case attached.
Rox risers NOT included
Bike is in overall good shape. Its been ridden off road plenty and has a few scuffs and scratches to show for it, but nothing serious.
The white plastic is stained and there are a few stress marks here and there.
16,300 miles, runs like a champ.
KBB puts book value around $3200. Asking $2675.
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Bumped ya over on ADV ;D
So what's next?
worst of it is, I really want a DR400 exactly like how that one is set up but have too many money sucking projects right now. DRAT!!!
I ended up getting a couple 2500 offers on this, which is fair for the shape and miles I suppose, and I decided to keep it. It's just too good of a bike to sell for that. Its way more bike than a KLR, as Bret will tell you ;)
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Quote from: Hank on December 30, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Its way more bike than a KLR250, as Bret will tell you ;)
i'm actually in agreement here but only barely. :)
Quote from: loingrader on December 31, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
i'm actually in agreement here but only barely. :)
:o :o :o
Now that's just wrong!!
The KLR is heavier anyway!
Hank santa must have missed your house this year the DR is 1/2 the bike a KLR is thats the reason I got one for riding in the Hills back home my KLR gets most of the miles it gets better mpg hauls 2 up and cruises at 75 all day that said what plastic tank does the job on a 400 suzy?
Bogus I can't remember any fuel deal but when one rides a KLR 6 gal tanker I like to help out after all we will surely need a hand picking our bike sooner or once a day if I follow LD
See you folks in June Remember guys if this KLR bashing thing goes on for more than 4 hrs you may need to see a Dr. or at least call Bret for advice
Quote from: NDave on January 01, 2013, 10:25:15 PMthat said what plastic tank does the job on a 400 suzy?
My Clarke works pretty well
Quote from: NDave on January 01, 2013, 10:25:15 PMthe DR is 1/2 the bike a KLR is
Only in terms of weight!
In terms of power, handling, and suspension its the other way around ;)
KLR is a BIG dirt bike, but truly still the best comprimize for the "ride across a state, and hit the trails" equation. You will find bikes better suited to road or trail, but nothing that's a better middle. A well set up DR650 comes close though... Anyone know anything more about that new Husky, the "Terra"?
Ride to Alaska and hit the trails, I'd agree, but not ride across the state. At least for me.
After owning 2 KLRs and a DRZ - my take is that the KLR is 25% better on road but the DRZ is 75% better offroad. So add that to your riding mix and decide from there.
I've ridden the DRZ to the Black Hills 4 times (1K miles in a weekend) and the N. shore of Superior once (also 1K in a weekend) and it was just fine. I will admit if I were riding to Tierra Del Fuego I'd rather take a KLR.
I must have bought the better one.
They were both equally KLRy :)
KLRs are great bikes, I'm certainly not a hater. I just like my DRZ a bit more for what I do with it. And its fun to argue about it!
Psycho is riding from mpls to the hills so that's almost 2 full states away and quite a trek on a drz. The thing that has always amazed me about klrs is they work pretty great on the road, even loaded down, and even on very poor roads. They are cheap to buy, cheap to own, and cheap to fix. They are heavy but that is what gives them tank like durability. And off road they may not have the best suspension or the best engine but neither does a drz. There are very very few places that a klr won't go with a skilled rider on it.
When I bought my cherry 92 for $1200 my plan was to ride it to the arctic ocean a few times and use my kdx as my hills bike. The klr did so well in the hills that it was my go to steed for every ddsr rally from the original to just last year when I brought the wee and then the kdx out (neither of which compare as a ddsr mount).
If I lived in the hills and had other road trip bikes the drz would be almost perfect, as i love riding drzs out there. But I think a wr250r would be better. If someone made an affordable, reliable fuel injected dual sport 400 with dual counter balancers and 6 gears it would be perfect.
But for the money its hard to beat a klr650 if you want a true 50/50 dual sport adventure bike.
Quote from: loingrader on January 06, 2013, 08:48:31 AM
There are very very few places that a klr won't go with a skilled rider on it.
So true. I could not believe the places you guys put those KLR's at the first rally I attended. I would still love to have one, just can't quite afford to pull the trigger on a second dual sport bike. Besides, the WR might get lonely. I also agree on the 400 size FI dual sport. I always said that I would never give up my WR, and I won't. Unless, of course, they come out with a WR450R.......
Everyone's favorite argument for the KLR vs DRZ is that the KLR is so superior on road. I just don't see how, unless the speeds get over 70mph. Keep it in the 65 range and I find them to work about equally well.... with a slight edge to the KLR in mileage and a big edge in range. I get over 40mpg on my DRZ at 60-65. The DRZ does NEED a 4 gal tank though, but with that 150 mile range is adequate nearly everywhere.
If I had to choose one for slabbing a long distance, I'd choose the KLR, but the KLR is pretty sucky on the slab too. On a two lane road, I'd take the DRZ. One area the DRZ beats the KLR on the road is cross wind performance...not sure why. but I thoght the KLR really sucked in a big cross wind.
And I said I wasn't going to get into this.... :-\
I have also owned two KLRs and one DRZ. Although I never traveled the kind of miles that Hank has on either bike I think I'm on his side. When I had both of them at the same time, I really struggled with which one to sell. I know which one I preferred to ride. Hands down it was the DRZ. If I had kept the DRZ, or KLR for that matter, and ridden any kind of distance, I would have two different front sprockets. One for the road and one for trail.
Three years ago, all alone, I got myself into a situation off of Bull Dog Canyon Trail with the KLR. I took a wrong turn about mid-way and kept going until it dead-ended. Dammit, this doesn't go through, then O M G I have to go back. It was much easier one direction than the other. There was lots of pushing, panting, cussing and thoughts of "you dumb ass" while getting myself out of there. Once I was back on the Bull Dog trail and the sun going down, I still had to ride it to Vanocker. I never claimed I knew how to ride, but this little incident, it made a lasting impression on me! I bought the DRZ the next spring.
I want options for my "what if" syndrome when choosing my ride. I knew with the DRZ, I could take that unknown trail, but with the KLR I wasn't so confident. I eventually sold them both and got a WRR and a Wee. The Wee so my wife and I could ride two-up and the DRZ because I wanted a 6th gear. "Wee" love the Wee, it handles two-up much better than the KLR, and with the DRZ, I wouldn't even bother trying two-up. Everyone already knows how I feel about the WRR, but I do miss the acceleration of the DRZ.
I think both bikes provide a lot of bang for the buck and you can readily find good deals on both. I think "setting up" the DRZ for your weight and load is much more important than it is on the KLR. Another option that I did not know about when I sold my DRZ, was a wide ratio gear kit. Bogus Jim found it on ThumperTalk. (See the link) The wide ratio drops the engine rpm down at high speeds, but still has enough power for hills or wind. I really think this could be the ticket, especially if you already have a DRZ and are thinking about getting a different bike.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/972833-wide-ratio-gears-but-no-six-speed/
I did a lot of riding up on the single track at Paul Bunyan Nat. Forest last summer. I took my DRZ and WR450. The WR is of course totally at home in that stuff. The DRZ could get through it, but if felt like a pig, and it wasn't all the much fun. If I had to ride a KLR through it, I'd have to pass. I'm sure plenty of riders could do it no problem. I probably could do it, but it wouldn't be fun. It would be a hell of a workout though!
Quote from: Lonesome Dave on January 06, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
And I said I wasn't going to get into this.... :-\
Its all in good fun here. I'm sure, or at least hope, no one will ever get their feelings hurt in this discussion. Bottom line is both bikes can do a lot, and which suits you better boils down to your skills, preferred riding, and expectations.
And our minds are all made up anyway. ;) Its just good natured bantering. I can't think of any 2 wheeled machines I wouldn't ride and enjoy. If its got knobbies it jumps higher on the list and a drz or a klr both reside near the top. Course right now an 83 gl650 is my nicest bike so take anything I say with a grain (or truckload) of salt.
The nice thing about riding a big pig like the KLR or the Tiger for that matter, is when I jump on the WR250f, its like riding a bicycle.
I really did enjoy riding the WRR last fall as well, till it died....... Love the feel of that motor on the trail. Would never take it for a long haul like I see some guys do though.
Despite owning several bikes (KLR650, DR650, Ducati 900SS, R6, KLX250) you know what I ride for a quick trip to Home Depot? The KLX! It's useless on the highway though. Seriously though, I can't see more then 500 miles on anything smaller then the KLR. Sure, it's work on trail rides, but I'm 6'4", 195 lbs, plus gear, and I seriously doubt a DRZ could do that consistently over 60 mph.
Quote from: Dr Psyko on January 08, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
Despite owning several bikes (KLR650, DR650, Ducati 900SS, R6, KLX250) you know what I ride for a quick trip to Home Depot? The KLX! It's useless on the highway though. Seriously though, I can't see more then 500 miles on anything smaller then the KLR. Sure, it's work on trail rides, but I'm 6'4", 195 lbs, plus gear, and I seriously doubt a DRZ could do that consistently over 60 mph.
Oh yeah.. it could, no problem. I had 460 on mine at 2pm one time. 65mph, all the way. KLR would be better for that particular ride though.. I'm only 6'0, but slightly over 200 nekked at this point. Well slightly over 210 actually, but not for long :)