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Dual Sport Motorcycle Forums => Yamaha => Topic started by: Hank on January 08, 2010, 09:11:18 PM

Title: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on January 08, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Yeah so I picked up a 92 TDM850.  This is a bike I've wanted for a while, and the sale of the KTM pressed (and funded) the issue.

Pretty hard to find.  They were only imported for 92 and 93, and I'd never even seen one first hand before. They sold like crap in the US, hence the short two year run, but have been a good seller for Yamaha world wide are still in production as a fuel injected 900.   I think they've gone through several re-designs over the years.   Definitely ahead of their time for the US IMO.   Around 400 lbs, similar to the KTM950, and about 85 hp.  

Mechancially sound, cosmetically I suppose average for a 18 yr old bike that has spent some time "adventuring".    Its been down on both sides, but clearly at low or zero speed.  Only 13K miles.

Here it was after I got it home:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm-004.jpg)

Here it is today:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm-037.jpg)

I took a couple parts off.   :P

I'm going to powdercoat or paint everything.  Parts wise it doesn't need much other than a new front tire and a chain/sprockets.

Right now I plan to powdercoat the frame, swingarm, wheels, and every bracket that I possibly can matte black and I think I'll paint the plastic and tank a dark metallic charcoal.  Still up in the air on the front fender, black or charcoal.   The fairing lowers will be black and will likely paint the fork lowers black as well.

Might upgrade the gauges to one of these units:


http://www.electrosport.com/street/speedometers-series-3900.php

Just because they are so cool and really quite cheap for what they do.

I'll post some progress pics.   Right now I'm waiting on a bearing removal tool for the wheels, and I'm out of town (country actually) this week.   I hope I can get it all done by April.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: fringefan on January 08, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
That is soo much better looking that a ....... what ever you call it.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on January 08, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
Than my GS1100 project that you liked so well??    ;D



I like the dual "bug eye" headlights on this bike:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm-006.jpg)
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Dratharr on January 09, 2010, 09:09:40 AM
I love those TDM's, and have always wanted one, same with the Honda Trans Alp. I wonder how those bikes would sell now in the US? My guess is pretty good. These types of bikes are obviously becoming more and more popular in the States. I cant believe how many I see now epically within the Front Range of Colorado. Anyway that is a really great find, there are not many of those around I have only seen one on the Denver Craig's list in the four years I have lived out west.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on January 09, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
I'm with you on the transalps too.  They have really gotten desirable now, 20+ years after they came out.   I remember when they were first released and no one "got it", including me.   Now I think they are great.

I've been looking long and hard for a TDM.   About 1 a month comes up on ebay, and a few pop on on Craig's, but I ended up driving to Boulder to get this one.  It made a good excuse to take a short family vacation to the Rockies over Thanksgiving.

I bet you are right that they'd sell OK here now too.  Vstrom sales are decent and it's a similar concept.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on February 09, 2010, 07:33:01 PM
So I got my frame, swingarm, etc, back from powder coating today.  They did it the wrong **$#*^ color.  Insert exploding head smiley here.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: loingrader on February 09, 2010, 10:09:25 PM
oh man that blows. what color should it have been and what color is it?  they gonna make it right?
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on February 11, 2010, 06:13:04 AM
I never would have guessed "flat black" could mean so many different things.

I asked for flat, and got more of a satin.  Next they found a sample of "flatter black" and it was still semi-shiny.  Flat should have NO reflectivity.   

They are getting in some actual flat and doing it over for me.      No big deal I guess.. just a bit of a PITA and lost time.    Spring is coming soon and I hope to have this beast back together in about 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on February 21, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
I gave up on having perfectly matched blacks.   It was turning into a total PITA, and I noticed my blackbird has a combination of flat and gloss blacks and it looks good.

So the TDM came partially back together yesterday, now in stealth mode:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm2-016.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm2-015.jpg)
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: plumber mike on February 21, 2010, 11:11:51 AM
There is a guy on ADV with a WTB TDM thread. Given your track record, you must be about due to sell this thing :D It's looking sweet. Whats up with the NX in the background 250 or 650?
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on February 21, 2010, 11:21:26 AM
I'll sell it about 20 minutes after I get the last bolt back in.

J/K.. I plan to keep this one.

That's an NX250.   It's technically the wife's.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on March 04, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
If anyone ever needs a seat redone, I'd whole heartedly recommend a local guy here in Watertown (Del-Mar Upholstery).
I've had him do a number of seats, and have been really happy.

Got the TDM seat back today.  I was all excited when I got the bike because it had a Corbin on it.  Well it was a Corbin, but it was pretty much sh!t.   It must have been almost as old as the bike as the cover was stiff as a board and one of the previous owners had either scooped out some of the foam or stored a bowling ball on the seat.   It was about the worst seat I'd ever sat on.

Took the seat in to Del-Mar and had them completely re-make the cover and refoam it, getting rid of the red piping in the process.

Looks great, as good as any factory seat.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdmseat-004.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdmseat-001.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdmseat-003.jpg)

It was a long wait, but the price was right and I'm really happy with the quality.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on March 04, 2010, 07:22:42 PM
A nice closeup of the original POS:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdmoldseat.jpg)
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: fringefan on March 05, 2010, 09:39:31 AM
That looks pretty good. I wonder if could redo my original KLR seat to make it a dual platform? My dished is pretty decent but it pushes you towards the tank.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on March 23, 2010, 09:03:56 AM
Saw my first TDM in the "wild" today.  It was the early style, just like mine.  Parked on a sidewalk.. in Munich!
Also saw a 750 Africa Twin.   They have cool bikes everywhere here.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: loingrader on March 23, 2010, 09:13:14 AM
i saw my first tdm chained to a street pole in paris last year.  and yea, europe has all the awesome bikes.  in amsterdam the cops ride africa twins.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on April 02, 2010, 03:27:47 PM
I ended up seeing a number of TDMs, quite a few blackbirds, and hp2, just all kinds of cool bikes.  Then of course there are the cars.. MB, BMW, MB, BMW, porsche, alfa, jag etc etc.   I think I saw 1 ford.

Took yesterday off and got the beast put back together:

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-001.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-002.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-003.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-004.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-006.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-007.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-008.jpg)

The paint work is disappointing.  I'm taking it back for buffing and some touch up.   There was supposed to be a chrome pin stripe on the paintline, but it didn't work out.  There are some bad spots, mismatches and a number of other screw ups.   The orange isn't quite what I expected, but it's growing on me so I'm OK with it.  Overall I like the paint scheme and powdercoat.

It needs a new windshield, but I haven't found a used on yet and a new one must ain't gonna happen (Yamaha is REALLY proud of it).  It has a few other rough edges too, but for now I'm just gonna ride it.  Maybe next winter....

Although the weather is CRAP today, I did ride it around 40 miles.  Its a pretty neat little bike.
It makes around 80hp, so its got decent power and likes to rev surprisingly much for a twin.  A few vibes but nothing offensive.    I flushed the brake fluid and bled thoroughly but I think new pads might be in order as the brakes are underwhelming.  Maybe I'm just too used to blackbird brakes?

It's got 6 or 7 inches of suspension and a decent ride, and it's really flickable.  I think it would be a riot in the twisties.   The new seat sits great, and the seating position is about perfect.  Perfectly upright and an easy reach to the bars.

The exhaust note isn't my favorite. I guess it sounds like a parallel twin, which is to say, quite boring.

Anyways, it's done, or at least close...
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on April 02, 2010, 03:30:31 PM
Oh and we better have a side by side before / after

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/tdm-004.jpg)

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/jasonh_010/tdm850/new-004.jpg)

Any difference?   ;D
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: fringefan on April 02, 2010, 06:06:05 PM
Nice job, I like it and love the paint job. It does not even look like the same bike and I think you might have found your calling in rebuilding bikes.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Dr Psyko on April 02, 2010, 07:21:09 PM
Yeah, really looks nice! Tell me again, why don't they sell those in the states?
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on April 02, 2010, 09:06:45 PM
Thanks guys.  I'm pretty happy with results (other than the paint issues, which I think they'll fix).

I bet the TDM would sell pretty well now.  It's really a similar bike to the v-strom or versys, which both sell well.    They obviously sold real well in Europe, even in 92/93 when they were imported here as I saw 2 or 3 last week in Munich, one of which I know was a 93.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: loingrader on April 05, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
it looks awesome hank.  what a sweet bike and an amazing transformation.  i bet if you put that on a yamaha showroom, everyone would think it was a cool new bike from yamaha.  not one that was 17 years old. 

nice work!
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: Hank on April 05, 2010, 11:41:20 AM
Thanks guys!   Unfortunately I'm getting on a plane again, wish I was home to ride it.   I'll be back Wednesday though so it's a quick trip.
I think the black on the fairing lowers really changed the lines of the bike.  They look really big and bulbous with the original one color paint.  I think they look much better now.     Now it needs a break in ride, maybe a quick SS1K :)

Things remaining to do:  New windshield, brake pads, and I need to sand the road rash out of the mufflers.   Most of that can wait though.
Might have to go HID headlights too.
Title: Re: Project: TDM
Post by: The Yeti on April 05, 2010, 05:40:59 PM
Simply beautiful!! Great job!

(Seriously, where's the drool smiley? If I ever needed one, now is the time.)