Time to get rolling!
The 2011 Dakota Dual Sport Riders summer rally will once again be held in the beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota! Camping will be at the Fish 'n Fry campground just south of Deadwood, SD: http://www.fishnfry.com/
Location is here:
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We will be staying on the Hillside Loop once again.
Dates are June 16, 17, 18 & 19, 2011. You can arrive anytime after noon on Thursday, June 16, departing on Sunday, June 19. Weather should be dry and warm - avg high 78, avg low 52. BUT, this is South Dakota...if you don't like the weather, just wait a minute. ;-) Be aware that there is very spotty cell phone coverage at the campground (can be a good thing), but if you ride to the top of the hill (2 minutes away) most will get a good signal.
Entry Fee: FREE!
Camping: Tents - $7 per person/night, RVs/Campers - $20 per night. You will pay the campground when you arrive, no pre-payment required. Make sure you tell them you are with DDSR to get the special discount!
We will have enough room for plenty of tents. RV sites near the tent sites are at a premium and need to be reserved as far in advance as possible, although there will be plenty of RV spots available away from "ground zero".
The rally is open to any and all skill levels of riders with any motorcycle that is street legal in SD (doesn't take much: headlight, taillight & license plate is about it). All attempts will be made to keep the amount of pavement on our rides to a minimum, but it is a necessary evil in the Black Hills to get from one trail to another sometimes.
Rides can range from gravel/easy fire roads to rocks to single track to really gnarly rocks & single track, hillclimbs, etc. There will be something for everybody!
The Fish 'n Fry campground (FnF) has full showers (coin operated, bring a couple of quarters if you don't want to smell like a dirty biker!), real bathrooms (with sinks & mirrors!), a general store (with beer), a small restaurant (with beer on tap!) and a grill and shelter we can use if it rains. 24hr gas station/convenience store right across the street, and Deadwood is only 10 minutes away. There are picnic tables, but if you want a guaranteed seat by the fire you better bring your own.
Electricity is available to charge cell phones, iPods, etc., however it is outside, so use at your own risk!
Firewood from outside the campground is not permitted (sometimes an exception is made for us DDSR folks, though). The FnF has bundles of wood for around $4, I think.
Limited food will be provided, but plan on fending for yourself during the day.
- One night will be chili & nachos (courtesy of Mr. & Mrs. Yeti)
- More to come, I'm sure!
Cars, trucks & bike trailers will have room to park, but could be a ways away from your campsite.
Copy and paste the below form to sign up:
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE:
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY:
DATE ARRIVING:
DATE LEAVING:
TENT OR RV:
SIZE OF RV:
NUMBER OF TENTS:
Anyone bringing special gifts (good tequila, good scotch, good beer) for THE YETI will be given preferred treatment along with my sincerest appreciation! ;-)
DISCLAIMER:
Anyone attending this event, does so at their own risk. The Yeti, any other DDSR member, the FnF campground or ANYONE BESIDES YOU will not be held responsible for injury to yourself, your bike or gear! Now, let's get out and RIDE THE HILLS!! P.S. No helicopters allowed! :-)
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FISHING: Fishing is allowed along the creek running into and out of their little stock pond at FnF, and a fishing license is not required.
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PERMITS: Don't forget, permits are now required to ride off-road (on trails designated 'TR' on the new MVU Map) in the Black Hills National Forest. Click the link about halfway down this page on the right-hand side (Application: Annual Motorized Trail Permit):
http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPyhQoY6BdkOyoCAGixyPg!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=STELPRDB5203036&navid=360000000000000&position=Feature*&ttype=detail&pname=Black%20Hills%20National%20Forest-%20Maps%20&%20Publications (http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPyhQoY6BdkOyoCAGixyPg!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=STELPRDB5203036&navid=360000000000000&position=Feature*&ttype=detail&pname=Black%20Hills%20National%20Forest-%20Maps%20&%20Publications)
"IN" LIST
NAME - NIGHTS - TENT/RV/CABIN
The Yeti (+1) - 16,17,18 - RV
greatbuffalo - 16,17,18 - tent
loingrader (+3) - 17,18 - tents
agspecialties - 16,17,18 - RV
SportFaller - 17,18 - tent
Scoobynut (+1) - 16,17,18 - cabin
JoniJo (+1) - 16,17,18 - cabin
Grubbie (+1) - 16,17,18 - RV
Osnabrock - 16,17,18 - tent
Hank - 17,18 - tent
Dr. Psycho (+2) - 17,18 - tents
Wacked - 16,17,18 - tent
NDave (+1) - 16,17,18 - RV
The Griz - 16,17,18 - tent
oktaneho - 17,18 - tent
Lonesome Dave - 16,17,18 - just ridin'
Hipster - 16,17,18 - tent
Twin Headlight Ernie - 16,17,18 - tent
Lawritz Mann - 16,17,18 - tent
Plumber Mike - 16,17,18 - just ridin'
TOTAL = 29
RIDES
DIFFICULTY RATING KEY
Class I - Requires 1-2 hours
Class II - Requires half a day
Class III - Requires most of a day
Class IV - Requires a very long day
Class V - Requires an overnight stay on the route
Class VI - Requires a few days
Class VII - Expedition
Grade A is graded dirt road
Grade B is easy jeep road
Grade C is moderate
Grade D is occasionally technical
Grade E is continuously technical
Grade F is gonzo
Camp 5 Road
Difficulty Rating - Class I, Grade D
MAP
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=deadwood+sd&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.315864,56.513672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Deadwood,+Lawrence,+South+Dakota&ll=44.364606,-103.600044&spn=0.063938,0.110378&z=13
DESCRIPTION
Rocky stream beds, some smooth access road, some rocky access road, grapefruit to cantaloupe sized loose rocks, two semi-gnarly hillclimbs, rocky steps, tight two-track in places, fast two-track in places, all tons-o-fun!
TIME
1hr - 2hr ride, depending on your skill/risk-taking level. We took 2.5hrs during one rally with lots of larger, adventure type bikes and some inexperienced riders (such as myself :P ). Some have claimed to have run it in less than 15 minutes. :o
PICS
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PILOT KNOB
Difficulty Rating - Class I, Grade D (although one .5 mile section is Grade E)
MAP
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DESCRIPTION
The only portion of the Centennial Trail that is open to motorized travel (from Pilot Knob TH to Dalton TH). Starts off easy, from either the south or north end. North end offers a really fun ATV trail with lots of whoops & banks. South end starts off with a short switchback uphill followed by some easy two track and rock strewn two-track...with awesome scenery! It's the middle bit that will get ya! Sometimes steep, rocky, narrow single track with some difficult steps, climbs and descents. Not all that bad, but can be challenging even on smaller bikes. But, keep in mind that flexlarson took some poor guy on a VStrom over Pilot Knob and the guy is still alive, his bike had a few broken bits. ;D So, it can't be all that bad!
TIME
1hr - 1.5hr
PICS
This bit will rattle your teeth out if you're suspension is too stiff! On the south end (I think):
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It tends to stay a little wetter up there because the forest is so thick:
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Sorry, I don't have any pics of the tuff stuff, you'll have to take my word for it.
249 from Silver City/Slate Creek Dam/The 429
Difficulty Rating - Class I, Grade C (although I suppose the 429 could be considered D)
Can anyone confirm that The 429 is no longer accessible due to the new map? I'm pretty sure it's not. EDIT: Yup, the green (best) portion of The 429 below is now closed. :(
MAP
(Traveling from east to west)
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DESCRIPTION
A beautiful (mostly) easy ride on smooth fire roads (= fast!). This is one of my favorite easy rides for some great scenery! The most challenging part is the green section of the 429, but I've been through it with a GSA that had no problems at all. Just gets a little tight & wet at times. Kind of a long section of gravel on the 231.1 stretch, otherwise, all dirt.
TIME
1.5hr - 2hr
PICS
See this thread: http://dev.dakotadualsportriders.com/smf/index.php?topic=137.0
SOUTHERN HILLS
Here's a new Southern Hills Loop plotted out by Sportfaller, as yet untested!
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=204019464610329084693.00049fdd1b07f8f1326e9&ll=43.570442,-103.732224&spn=0.407445,0.883026&t=p&z=11 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=204019464610329084693.00049fdd1b07f8f1326e9&ll=43.570442,-103.732224&spn=0.407445,0.883026&t=p&z=11)
The Yeti's are IN!
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Alan/Yeti, Patty/Mrs. Yeti <---non-rider/campground host
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 2
DATE ARRIVING: June 16
DATE LEAVING: June 19
TENT OR RV: RV
SIZE OF RV: 27'
Sorry, I'm kinda lazy...so, most of the above is just copied & pasted from previous rallies. If anyone has anything new to add to the RIDES post, let me know!
Can't wait to see you all again! I'm still very apprehensive about riding anything too challenging. I may be taking it very easy this time around - please don't hold it against me! ;D
I haven't even been out on the bike since last November...my attitude may change once I get a few rides under my belt this spring! :evil
Posted on ADVRider:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15593498#post15593498
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Dan / greatbuffalo
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1
DATE ARRIVING: 6/16
DATE LEAVING: 6/19
TENT OR RV: Tent
SIZE OF RV:
NUMBER OF TENTS: 1
Bret/Loingrader
2-3 (depending on how many siblings i can rope in)
arrive friday leave sunday
2-3 tents
I am in for all 4 days. Need a RV spot.
Yeti, do i call FNF for reservations for the RV spot?
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Josh / SportFaller
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1
DATE ARRIVING: 6/17, late PM
DATE LEAVING: 6/19
TENT OR RV: Tent
NUMBER OF TENTS: 1
I'll bring firewood up thursday night again, I think someone still has my maul from last year (cause I'm too dumb to remember to pick it up)
I'll also bring my medical kit, with the intent on NOT using it.
I may be riding a new f800 by then.... maybe....
Quote from: Sportfaller on April 07, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
I'll bring firewood up thursday night again,
I'll also bring my medical kit
much appreciated, again!
Quote from: agspecialties on April 06, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
I am in for all 4 days. Need a RV spot.
Yeti, do i call FNF for reservations for the RV spot?
No need, I got it taken care of. Just need to know the size of your RV.
Quote from: loingrader on April 07, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
Quote from: Sportfaller on April 07, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
I'll bring firewood up thursday night again,
I'll also bring my medical kit
much appreciated, again!
+1000!! ;D
Quote from: Sportfaller on April 07, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
I think someone still has my maul from last year (cause I'm too dumb to remember to pick it up)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the chopper with me when I left. ;)
Quote from: The Yeti on April 07, 2011, 03:28:41 PMI'm pretty sure it wasn't in the chopper with me when I left. ;)
Left like a true VIP, Very Injured Person....
Yeti
The hauler is 30' long. Does the site have water and sewer and power?
If there is anyone riding in from parts East and would like someone to ride with let me know. I will be leaving from Mitchell so if you are in the area or East we could meet up and ride. Let me know I may start a thread if there is any interest.
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Scoobynut
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1, slight possibility of 1 or 2 others
DATE ARRIVING: June 16
DATE LEAVING: June 19
TENT OR RV: Cabin
SIZE OF RV: --
NUMBER OF TENTS: --
I'm interested in reserving the "Miners Shack." Please let me know if I can rent this cabin. Please, no sniping because an old man wants to stay in a cabin. I only stay in tents when there is no other option. ;D
Count me in!!!!!!!!! I just booked the "Sitting Bull" room for the 16th, 17th and 18th. ;D Driving back to Omaha on the 19th.
In case some of you don't like sleeping on the ground like me, these are neat "smallish" rooms ($35/night) that sleep 2-3 with a main bathroom down the hall. I think it's a pretty good deal!
Can't wait to see all you neat folks and do some ridin'. I'll bring the Tylenol ;) Joni
P.S. Jeff is coming out with me but he won't be riding. ::)
Quote from: agspecialties on April 07, 2011, 07:46:24 PM
Yeti
The hauler is 30' long. Does the site have water and sewer and power?
Water & Power at all sites, sewer at some, waste dump on grounds.
Quote from: Scoobynut on April 07, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Scoobynut
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1, slight possibility of 1 or 2 others
DATE ARRIVING: June 16
DATE LEAVING: June 19
TENT OR RV: Cabin
SIZE OF RV: --
NUMBER OF TENTS: --
I'm interested in reserving the "Miners Shack." Please let me know if I can rent this cabin. Please, no sniping because an old man wants to stay in a cabin. I only stay in tents when there is no other option. ;D
Hey Scooby! You'll have to rent your own cabin. Call the FnF ASAP!
Quote from: The Yeti on April 08, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: Scoobynut on April 07, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Scoobynut
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1, slight possibility of 1 or 2 others
DATE ARRIVING: June 16
DATE LEAVING: June 19
TENT OR RV: Cabin
SIZE OF RV: --
NUMBER OF TENTS: --
I'm interested in reserving the "Miners Shack." Please let me know if I can rent this cabin. Please, no sniping because an old man wants to stay in a cabin. I only stay in tents when there is no other option. ;D
Hey Scooby! You'll have to rent your own cabin. Call the FnF ASAP!
Yeti, thanks. Before you replied, I had already called and emailed them, so hopefully something will be available along those lines. Lookin' forward to meeting you all!
I'm sure I'm in. But I have no idea of how many or when yet ;)
Little Log cabin rented for 16th, 17th and 18th. Looking forward to it!
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Rob/Grubbie
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 2
DATE ARRIVING: 6-16
DATE LEAVING: 6-19
TENT OR RV: RV....electric and water will be fine
SIZE OF RV: 21'
NUMBER OF TENTS: 0
I'm no mx racer, but I had fun on some of the more challenging trails. If there is anyone else who just likes fire roads, gravel roads, etc., that is what my wife enjoys, so we take a lot of easy rides as well. Would love to have some company!
I'm planning on having my sister on her klx250 as well as my brother with his wife on the back of a KLR5650 so we will be doing the scenic non challenging routes again this rally too grubbie.
Hmmm....maybe I'll bring the GS this time around and do some easy two-up rides with the wife. Would definitely keep me off the rough stuff! ;D
Quote from: The Yeti on April 25, 2011, 12:04:50 PM
Would definitely keep me off the rough stuff! ;D
and hopefully out of the heli too. :D
With my big Tiger I won't be doin anything too tough either..........unless someone dares me ;D ;D ;D
I'm fairly new to this dual-sport thing so I'm happy on the easy stuff. I might be up for a moderately challenging ride too for a change of pace. I wouldn't normally say that, but a buddy who's an experienced hare-scrambles racer took me out to the Big Horns a couple years ago and got me way out my comfort zone (whether I liked it or not) and somehow I didn't crash or injure myself which did give me some confidence in my ability. But I'd never claim to be a 'great' or even good, off-road rider. My buddy, Dave, will be joining us too, and he's happy with the two-track and gravel stuff too. I'm sure that whatever rides we go on, it'll be a good time. ;)
Seems like the majority of our group is now in the "prefer it easier" crowd as opposed to the "prefer it crazier" crowd (you know who you are! :evil ). This is just fine by me! I think I may have got most of the desire to get crazy on my bike out of my system the last couple of seasons...notice I said "most". ;) :evil
Quote from: loingrader on April 25, 2011, 11:06:18 AM
I'm planning on having my sister on her klx250 as well as my brother with his wife on the back of a KLR5650 so we will be doing the scenic non challenging routes again this rally too grubbie.
Hey Brett - you got some routes planned out yet? I may just follow you guys around on the easy stuff...you seem to know the trails around here better than anyone else I know! Josh is a very close second.
I still crave (and ride) the crazy stuff but I usually hit those trails early in the morning before my sister and dad roll out of their tents. Another reason that I like F&F is because that fun little loop past Galena is close by (if it's still open). I can get my adrenaline rush filled early in the morning and happily tootle around the rest of the day.
Don't have any detailed routes planned. I'm curious to see what trails are closed now with the new travel management plan. I've got a simple GPS and old NFS maps so I may not know where I'm going but at least I can get back to camp. Brian and Chad know routes much better than I, and they know the FUN ones.
I'd really like to take a long loop down towards Mt. Rushmore and see it from a dirt trail. I've heard some climbers say that such a trail exists but haven't seen it myself. I know trails pretty well by Silver City and Slate Creek Dam, so we could certainly head over that way again this year too. Last year we rode to Devil's Tower which is a long ways but also really cool for those who haven't seen it.
I was going to wait and just pick up a trail sticker and new map in Spearfish once I get out there but maybe I'll get them coming now so I can do a little research.
I also want to eventually hit every one of the motorcycle only singletrack trails now listed on the trail map.
As usual, I'm up for anything!
-Bret
According to the new maps, you can't get to Camp 5 from Galena anymore.
You can download the new maps here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPwhQoY6BdkOyoCAPkATlA!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=FSE_003853&navid=091000000000000&pnavid=null&position=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&ttype=main&pname=Black%2520Hills%2520National%2520Forest-%2520Home/maps/ (http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPwhQoY6BdkOyoCAPkATlA!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=FSE_003853&navid=091000000000000&pnavid=null&position=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&ttype=main&pname=Black%2520Hills%2520National%2520Forest-%2520Home/maps/)
The link seems to be broken right at the moment though. I downloaded them last night. If you have a Garmin GPS, there's a map you can download for that too. The best section of The 429 is closed as well. ???
I've been on a few dirt tracks around Mt. Rushmore, but none that you could see the mountain from. That would be cool to find.
Lonesome Dave emailed me with a fun sounding loop starting in Beulah WY that I'd be willing to try. I'd also like to try to get down south a bit.
I'm in.
I'm going to try to make it down on Thursday.
I'll be tenting it.
I will likely be leaving on Sunday.
-John
Osnabrock- Did you sell that XL500?wasit?
Glad to hear your coming out.
Quote from: Osnabrock on April 27, 2011, 03:40:10 PM
I'm in.
I'm going to try to make it down on Thursday.
I'll be tenting it.
I will likely be leaving on Sunday.
-John
Are you riding out solo? Coming through Watertown?
I did sell my '83 XL600. I kept my'85 XL as my farm bike. I couldn't be with out one, they're a great bike. I've even got a backup motor in case anything bad happens.
I think that I'll be coming from NE North Dakota so I'll probably be going through Bismarck/Mandan area. I haven't really visited with any of the other folks that came from the MPLS area last year so I don't know if there will be anyone coming through Watertown.
Hank,
The way it looks now I will be riding out of Mitchell on the 16th. Not sure what route you will take but if you come by Mitchell we could meet up or if you a route a little to the north I could meet you a little north. Never been out to the Hills on anything north of I90. I'm pretty flexible. I tend to stop and enjoy the scenery and shot pics, so be forewarned. :D
the Maydew caravan will probably take 44 the whole way out as it is peaceful, zero traffic and goes thru the back side of the badlands. Will hopefully leave from Platte, SD on friday before noon. Anyone is welcome to join up with us (hank, gb, foster). It is a fun road.
I thought about heading that way too. I'd join you but I was thinking about heading out Thursday. Maybe I'll change my plans. I'd like to ride with others.
Quote from: loingrader on April 28, 2011, 12:45:34 AM
the Maydew caravan will probably take 44 the whole way out as it is peaceful, zero traffic and goes thru the back side of the badlands. Will hopefully leave from Platte, SD on friday before noon. Anyone is welcome to join up with us (hank, gb, foster). It is a fun road.
Your crew is riding out this time? Maybe I could angle down and meet you along the way.
Hank, I can wait till friday and you can meet me in Mitchell and then head down to Platte to meet them. What do you think?
Quote from: Hank on April 28, 2011, 06:41:19 AM
Your crew is riding out this time?
beth and i rode out in sept and it was a great ride. there are several whatifs that could throw a wrench, but that is the plan i'm shooting for. so it would be 3 klr650's (pop, bro & wife, me) and beth on her klx250. At the very least i can almost guarantee that beth and i will ride out friday before noon.
i assume you are riding your dr400 hank?
Assuming the stars align and I actually make it, yes I'll be riding the DRZ. I might just bust out solo as swinging down that far south is quite a few extra miles (and the DRZ isn't my idea of an awesome highway ride) but that plan is also subject to change.
So, to summarize, I'm not 100% sure I'm coming and I don't know which route I'll take. :)
??? I've got sooo much work lined up this summer, I wont know if i can make it until the week of. I also got a ride on an outlaw mower... i cant turn down the chance to race a 50hp mower!
Quote from: numb41 on April 28, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
i cant turn down the chance to race a 50hp mower!
you should try a 160hp motorcycle (eh hank?)
hope you can make it out Foster!
I ordered my trail permit and map last week. It just arrived in the post today.
I like the new maps. They seem a lot easier to read. They only sent me the map for the North half but it should suffice since that's primarily where we stayed last year.
I'm set to go.
Will there be anyone there if I arrive on the 16th. I'm thinking I want to just take my time and go out on Thursday. That way I may get first dibs on a prime camping spot. ;D ;D ;D
That way I could have all day Friday for riding with whoever will be there.
Quote from: greatbuffalo on May 06, 2011, 11:29:25 PM
Will there be anyone there if I arrive on the 16th. I'm thinking I want to just take my time and go out on Thursday. That way I may get first dibs on a prime camping spot. ;D ;D ;D
That way I could have all day Friday for riding with whoever will be there.
According to the "IN LIST", there will be 11 of us there on the 16th! Might even get a late afternoon ride in! ;D
Mrs. Yeti & I plan on showing up shortly after noon on the 16th.
Put me on the official IN list as well. I'll probably ride out early Friday.
Jake, my brother and I will be there as well. Hopefully Friday afternoon.
Yeti -
I would like on the "IN" list also.
Plan to be out there late on the 16th. Would like a tent site nights of 16th, 17th, and 18th.
Absolutely cannot wait!
Wacked
North Dakota boys will be there HOWEVER being as gerry and I (dave) are both hiatus from employment we talked about showing up a week early + or not
David and Dale could show later RV site and tent likley needed
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout! Up to 23 confirmed attendees! ;D
Hey NDave, can you let me know how many tent and RV sites you will need, along with the size of each RV? Thanks!
Unless of course you are coming way early and are booking your own sites.
Personally, I'm still on the fence as to what bike to bring - spent a couple hours on some fire roads 2-up on Sunday...not really too impressed with the dirt-worthy-ness of the GSA (2up at least). (Keep in mind, my other bike is a WRR. ;) ) Don't think the wife was really into the dirt either, but I could be wrong.
Might just need some suspension adjustments...haven't got into that yet!
Yeti, this is a conundrum. The GS might keep you at speeds more in my category (self preservation motive, Super-ego), but the WR could represent confronting your fears and claiming your "dark side" or Id. What would Freud do? Smoke another cigar.
Dr. P, what is your flight plan? Coming through or near Watertown?
QuotePersonally, I'm still on the fence as to what bike to bring
If you bring the GSA, this video has some off-road riding tips for 1200-class bikes... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDiCbBwk54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDiCbBwk54)
Quote from: BogusJim on May 09, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
QuotePersonally, I'm still on the fence as to what bike to bring
If you bring the GSA, this video has some off-road riding tips for 1200-class bikes... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDiCbBwk54 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDiCbBwk54)
Awesome vid! Never seen an HP2 at Erzberg...I would expect it to be a monster hill-climber. Can't help but notice that I didn't see them picking throug Karl's Diner though...?? 8)
Looks like all I need are some knobbies for the GS and I'll be good to go! :evil ;D
Hank, not sure yet of the big plan. I'll let you know if we are coming through Watertown...
Quote from: greatbuffalo on May 06, 2011, 11:29:25 PM
Will there be anyone there if I arrive on the 16th. I'm thinking I want to just take my time and go out on Thursday. That way I may get first dibs on a prime camping spot. ;D ;D ;D
That way I could have all day Friday for riding with whoever will be there.
Now we have
14 riders showing up on the 16th. ;D I'm down for a late afternoon/early evening ride on Thursday...could collect firewood or something! :o
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn213/Promo_Yeti/DDSR%209-19-08/IMGP1013.jpg)
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn213/Promo_Yeti/DDSR%209-19-08/IMGP1014.jpg)
Not really, that's frowned upon by our lovely hosts at the FnF....
;D
That was an awesome bonfire that year though!
I'd be down for a late afternoon ride as well. I'm still up in the air on my route but I guess I should arrive before 1 pm. Still would like to find someone to ride out with. If there is any one out on the right side of the state that would like to ride on the 16th let me know. I'll even meet someone along the way.
I'm in for 16,17, and 18. Tent.
Quote from: The Griz on May 20, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
I'm in for 16,17, and 18. Tent.
Welcome Griz, got you down! Care to offer an introduction?? Where you from, what you ride, etc. ;D
Anyone know if Camp 5 will be open or closed? Took my Xterra over that last fall and thought it would be a cool ride. I know some of you guys have mantioed it as well.
Yeti, that would be a good afternoon ride on Thursday, yes?
Yes, Camp 5 will be open....no, you will not be seeing The Yeti in Camp 5 this time around. Still a little bit of shell shock from last June, and I'm bringing the GS - plan on staying on relatively smooth fire roads, mostly two-up.
EDIT: You can't get to Camp 5 through Galena anymore though - sucks, 'cause that was an awesome water crossing! :(
Bummer!! Can't get there from Galena anymore? >:(
Didn't know it was Camp 5 that brought your weekend to an end.
I can't say as I blame you. Maybe I'm thinking of another trail.
I went up over the Hill past Vinegar Hill Cemetery. Lots of logging up in that area last fall. Lots of up and down and pretty decent road actually but tight in places. Plenty of room for skidders though. Do I have the wrong road?
Any ideas for an afternoon ride???
Custer Peak??
Quote from: The Yeti on May 21, 2011, 09:38:02 PM
EDIT: You can't get to Camp 5 through Galena anymore though - sucks, 'cause that was an awesome water crossing! :(
so that road past galena is closed before the first water crossing, or is it closed somewhere farther down the trail before camp 5. have yet to get my map, sorry for the dumb questions, i just can't see how they would have closed that trail as it was big and wide enough to drive a bus down.
Quote from: loingrader on May 23, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Yeti on May 21, 2011, 09:38:02 PM
EDIT: You can't get to Camp 5 through Galena anymore though - sucks, 'cause that was an awesome water crossing! :(
so that road past galena is closed before the first water crossing, or is it closed somewhere farther down the trail before camp 5. have yet to get my map, sorry for the dumb questions, i just can't see how they would have closed that trail as it was big and wide enough to drive a bus down.
if it is closed it should be past the water X-ing as there are several access roads to private property past the X-ing?
You guys are probably right, I'll check the map tonight.
Well, here's the new MVU map of that area:
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn213/Promo_Yeti/BlackHillsMVUMapFULL.jpg)
Sure looks to me like the trail stops right at the water crossing...will have to just wait and see I guess. (I added the green highlight.)
Camp 5 - http://dev.dakotadualsportriders.com/smf/index.php?topic=611.msg5141#msg5141
Crash story - http://dev.dakotadualsportriders.com/smf/index.php?topic=467.msg4027#msg4027
Very unimpressive crash vid - http://dev.dakotadualsportriders.com/smf/index.php?topic=467.msg3939#msg3939
Yes, Camp 5 is my nemisis...I will conquer it again, one day. Just not during this rally...bringing the wrong weapon for that battle! ;D :evil
Quote from: greatbuffalo on May 22, 2011, 09:21:51 AM
Bummer!! Can't get there from Galena anymore? >:(
Didn't know it was Camp 5 that brought your weekend to an end.
I can't say as I blame you. Maybe I'm thinking of another trail.
I went up over the Hill past Vinegar Hill Cemetery. Lots of logging up in that area last fall. Lots of up and down and pretty decent road actually but tight in places. Plenty of room for skidders though. Do I have the wrong road?
Count me in, but no camping. I live up Nemo Road so I'll just go home at night. I'm planning on being there the afternoon of the 16th for whatever! And, I'll be there every morning thereafter. However, I also have my 3rd grandchild due at the same time, but I already told them NOT to expect me. After all this is a DDSR rally! Can't wait.
Quote from: The Yeti on May 23, 2011, 09:45:50 PM
Well, here's the new MVU map of that area:
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn213/Promo_Yeti/BlackHillsMVUMapFULL.jpg)
Sure looks to me like the trail stops right at the water crossing...will have to just wait and see I guess. (I added the green highlight.)
Is that the december version of the map? if not it is not correct, call the FS for the new version. Mine is at the office but I will take a look in the morning. Just because it isn't part of the trail system doesn't always mean it's not still a road, the whole thing is confusing as hell and even the FS can't expalin it??
This is the current color version that they have online only. I guess I just assumed it's up-to-date.
Don't really matter to me, I ain't goin' nowhere near that place! :o ;D
Quote from: The Yeti on May 23, 2011, 10:54:21 PM
This is the current color version that they have online only. I guess I just assumed it's up-to-date.
Don't really matter to me, I ain't goin' nowhere near that place! :o ;D
LOL... yea, there are demons there. Broke my hand in that same area on my 300 ::)
I'm in! I'll be riding out there with Twin Headlight Ernie, we'll be camping and should arrive Thursday evening. Looking forward to riding with you guys again.
Quote from: hipster on May 27, 2011, 06:08:08 AM
I'm in! I'll be riding out there with Twin Headlight Ernie, we'll be camping and should arrive Thursday evening. Looking forward to riding with you guys again.
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Tom/Hipster & Ernie/Twin Headlight Ernie
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 2
DATE ARRIVING: 6/17, late PM
DATE LEAVING: 6/19
TENT OR RV: Tent
NUMBER OF TENTS: 2
Glad you're coming hipster. Are you coming through Watertown?
How long did it take everyone to get their permit in the mail? I haven't ordered yet.
Hi Hank,
No, we'll be taking the southerly route, hwy 34/14 across the state.
Hank, my permit came in about 4 days if I remember correctly. It comes from some place on the East coast if I remember correctly. I almost threw it out thinking it was junk mail.
Hipster, glad you're making it out again.
Quote from: The Yeti on May 20, 2011, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: The Griz on May 20, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
I'm in for 16,17, and 18. Tent.
Welcome Griz, got you down! Care to offer an introduction?? Where you from, what you ride, etc. ;D
Oops, I didn't do things properly:
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Jeff / The Griz
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1
DATE ARRIVING: 16
DATE LEAVING: 19
TENT OR RV: Tent
SIZE OF RV: NA
NUMBER OF TENTS: 1
I grew up in Bismarck, ND. I've lived in Minneapolis, MN for 8 years now. Started riding motorcycles only a few years ago... 2007 I think??? Got into it fast though. Love it. Had a 2007 KLR650, then a 2008 KLR650.... I now have a 2009 BMW F800GS and a 2010 BMW G450X. More than likely I will be trailering out with my G450X since it is a serious enduro/off-road machine and I'd like to explore some single track in the Black Hills. I can't wait!
for those purchasing trail use tags once you get to the hills...
Most of the forest service places close at 5pm on Friday (Spearfish). The one in Rapid is open on Saturday but the one near Pactola is open 7 days a week. So if you don't get your tags by 5pm on Friday and don't want to ride to Rapid, Pactola is not terribly far away and it's a fun ride, on dirt or pavement.
FYI.
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Larry / Lawritz Mann
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1
DATE ARRIVING: 16th
DATE LEAVING: 19th
TENT OR RV: tent
SIZE OF RV:
NUMBER OF TENTS: 1
Sorry, havn't been paying attention. We need special pernits to ride on the trails? If so, how do I get them?
Quote from: Dr Psyko on June 07, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
We need special pernits to ride on the trails? If so, how do I get them?
by mail. click the link. right hand side half way down the page.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPyhQoY6BdkOyoCAGixyPg!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=STELPRDB5203036&navid=360000000000000&position=Feature*&ttype=detail&pname=Black%20Hills%20National%20Forest-%20Maps%20&%20Publications (http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPyhQoY6BdkOyoCAGixyPg!/?ss=110203&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=STELPRDB5203036&navid=360000000000000&position=Feature*&ttype=detail&pname=Black%20Hills%20National%20Forest-%20Maps%20&%20Publications)
or buy them at a NFS site. Spearfish is closest to FNF but closes at 4:30 on Friday.
Quote from: Lawritz Mann on June 07, 2011, 06:41:59 AM
NAME/INTERNET HANDLE: Larry / Lawritz Mann
NUMBER IN YOUR PARTY: 1
DATE ARRIVING: 16th
DATE LEAVING: 19th
TENT OR RV: tent
SIZE OF RV:
NUMBER OF TENTS: 1
Welcome Larry! Got you on the IN list....care to introduce yourself a bit?? See this forum:
http://dev.dakotadualsportriders.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0
Got my permit. I didn't see instructions on where to mount? Do they care?
Quote from: HankGot my permit. I didn't see instructions on where to mount? Do they care?
I'm wondering the same thing. Thought I'd read that the permit must be mounted where "visible when riding" but I can't find that web page now. I feel like mounting it on the bottom of the skid plate but that probably won't fly.
I happen to talk with hayduke.klr07 several weeks ago. (works for the forest service) He mounted it on the left side so it could be seen as you passed another rider on the trail, mainly the "trail police". So that's where I mounted mine. However, I'm not going to stick that big ugly over-sized orange sticker on my scooter. So I cut a circle out of the middle with all the info on it and stuck it on the side. Still don't like it, but its smaller!
Probably not the right place to post this (sorry guys), but I just bought a Garmin 62cs but have discovered the installed map a little short of useless. There is a topographical map, or a street map upgrade available. Any idea if the topographical is that much better on the trails, or is it better to just get the upgraded street map?
If you are coming to the rally you might want to look at the Forest Service GPS map. Price is right (free)
GPS Maps (http://prdp2fs.ess.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjAwhwtDDw9_AI8zPyhQoYAOUjMeXDfODy-HWHg-zDrx8kb4ADOBro-3nk56bqF-RGGGSZOCoCAPi8eX8!/dl3/d3/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnZ3LzZfMjAwMDAwMDBBODBPSEhWTjJNMDAwMDAwMDA!/?navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=stelprdb5292977&navid=360000000000000&pnavid=null&ss=110203&position=Not%20Yet%20Determined.Html&ttype=detail&pname=Black%20Hills%20National%20Forest-%20Maps)
I haven't used the Garmin Topo maps. I have City Navigator and that probably has about 50% of the forest service roads and none of the trails. Although, Camp 5 is listed, which I find hilarious. Camp 5 does not belong on a street map. :o
Thanks Jim! thats sweet, i didnt know they had GPS maps. Cant wait to get home and load this!
Topo is only useful for hiking IMO...way too much info (that you don't need) for riding trails, plus slow to draw. City Nav has had just about every trail I've ridden in the hills. There are a few missing, but pretty much all the fire roads are included in City Nav.
The MVU maps seem to have all the trails, but are very confusing to read (at least for me ??? ). I have it on a separate micro SD card so I can swap between the MVU map and City Nav. Will be giving it the first real test during the rally...I haven't ridden much off road yet this season.
QuoteI have it on a separate micro SD card so I can swap between the MVU map and City Nav
On most Garmin GPS's I think you can toggle different maps on/off. I have the 60Cx; just hit Menu button on the map page, then select Setup Map, and you can select which maps you want displayed (or all of them at once). So I put City Nav and MVU on the same micro SD card.
OK Mr. Yeti......now it's official ;D I'll be there all the days, but I will likely sleep in my bed each night.
Quote from: BogusJim on June 08, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
QuoteI have it on a separate micro SD card so I can swap between the MVU map and City Nav
On most Garmin GPS's I think you can toggle different maps on/off.....
Not on mine - 60CSX. It can only handle one map at a time. Kinda sux, my old Etrex could hold multiple maps though.
I don't have a 'Motorized Trail Permit' for the 'TR' trails yet. Can I buy one on site? If not, where and when can one be purchased?
I know I could order one online, but I don't think it will get to me in time and I don't want to pay $25 to overnight it to MPLS.
If I do not get one, will I not be able to ride where everyone else is? Will I be screwed?
My bike is MN plated with a MN DNR Off Highway Motorcycle Permit. Headlight, tail light, mirror.
Thanks.
you will want to buy one. don't pay to have it overnight shipped.
for those purchasing trail use tags once you get to the hills...
Most of the forest service places close at 5pm on Friday (Spearfish). The one in Rapid is open on Saturday but the one near Pactola is open 7 days a week. So if you don't get your tags by 5pm on Friday and don't want to ride to Rapid, Pactola is not terribly far away and it's a fun ride, on dirt or pavement.
FYI.
I put my hideous orange billboard (trail license) on my DRZ tonight. Yuck!
Fortunately I'll cover it with mud ASAP.
I'm sorry to announce that I wont be up there at all this weekend after all. My bike is still resting on pieces in the garage and my fiance will be home for the first time in a month. There is an open house at the Fire Department in Hill City on saturday, If you guys are riding by at lunch time stop in and get a hotdog or hamburger!
Bummer, we just may have to find our way down there for lunch. Enjoy your time with fiance.
Oh, he'll enjoy her, he still making up for the Moab crash..... ::)
Deal! I'm always up for a free lunch!
Sorry you can't make it.... :P
Quote from: Sportfaller on June 14, 2011, 07:42:31 AM
I'm sorry to announce that I wont be up there at all this weekend after all. My bike is still resting on pieces in the garage and my fiance will be home for the first time in a month. There is an open house at the Fire Department in Hill City on saturday, If you guys are riding by at lunch time stop in and get a hotdog or hamburger!
Quote from: The Yeti on June 14, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
Deal! I'm always up for a free lunch!
Sorry you can't make it.... :P
+1 on both accounts. you going to be at the firehouse flipping burgers sportfaller?
One more night of work then 3 weeks of vacation. Looking forward to meeting some new friends this weekend.
Should be a great time!!!! ;D
I'll be at the fire hall there in Hill City from noonish till 6
In a little over 24hrs from now, myself and 14 other riders will be at the rally! Getting real excited now!
BTW, had some issues with my trailer and my GS, so I'm bringing my WRR. :evil
The wife and I cooked up a sh*t-load of chili, and it'll be heated up and ready for dinner on Thursday along with some nachos! :eat From past experience, there'll most likely be some leftovers for Friday as well.
See ya tomorrow!
Total People - 28
Total Riders - 26
Arriving 16th - 20
Arriving 17th - 8
Tents - 15
RVs - 4
Cabins - 2
Locals just ridin' - 2
I plan on bringing a load of firewood on Thursday afternoon. Clean so they won't complain.....I hope
Rally is tomorrow and I have yet to hear from some of the founding DDSR members - fringefan, flexlarson and littlejacket in particular. Anyone know what's going on with those guys??
Hope I can sleep tonight. ;D
I texted Flex and he said he'd be there. Littlejacket is out, not sure about fringefan.
fringefan will be there too.
So if I happen by tomorrow evening and bring a peace offering (beer) I will be welcome?
Had a great ride yesterday. left from peacefull pines (above Blackwhack) and rode up to spearfish via Cement Ridge lookout.
near Galena
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/blackhills_2007/IMG_1516.jpg)
Cement ridge lookout
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/blackhills_2007/IMG_1519.jpg)
you will be welcome. beer or no beer. see you then.
I'm out >:(Hole in radiator.......again.This time bigger. I guess I see why the airheads are so popular.
I don't have anybody's # that is at the rally. I'll catch up with you guys/gals when you get back to camp.
Quote from: Fletch on June 16, 2011, 11:05:51 PM
So if I happen by tomorrow evening and bring a peace offering (beer) I will be welcome?
Had a great ride yesterday. left from peacefull pines (above Blackwhack) and rode up to spearfish via Cement Ridge lookout.
near Galena
That water was pretty deep this year huh? I about drowned my poor little WR in that crossing.
Well, if you'd just quite runnin' into shit, you'd be alright. ;D Was sad you didn't come back on Saturday. :'( Thanks again for the beers! :cheers
Quote from: plumber mike on June 18, 2011, 09:59:52 AM
I'm out >:(Hole in radiator.......again.This time bigger. I guess I see why the airheads are so popular.
I don't have anybody's # that is at the rally. I'll catch up with you guys/gals when you get back to camp.