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Title: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on May 30, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
Attention!  To all my DDSR buddies up there in the thawing great north... 

Announcing the Moose Run, a Dual Sport Rally in north central Colorado on 7/15-17, 2011 !  See:  http://frontrangeriders.com/page4.html (http://frontrangeriders.com/page4.html)

Here in No Colorado we don't seem to be as organized for dual sport activities as you DDSR guys are, so I was excited to find out about something brand new this year - and for you guys it really is the shortest possible drive from the Dakotas to experience some dual sport riding in the Colorado Rockies as it will be based in tiny Walden, CO, (population 586) about 60 miles SW of Laramie, WY.   Camping will be at the fairgrounds and there are a couple of friendly cafes in town dying for your business!  This is an AMA sanctioned National Dual Sport ride because it is hosted by an AMA sanctioned club called Front Range Riders out of Ft. Collins, and they are getting some help from members of our long standing local dirt riders club called Northern Colorado Trail Riders.  I've never been a member of either one but I heard about this and called up some guys to ask more questions about it, since the web site link above doesn't really say that much.

Check-in is Friday July 15 and rides are on Sat and Sun.  It is a benefit ride to support the National Youth Project Using Minibikes (http://larimer.org/nypum/ (http://larimer.org/nypum/)) to teach kids to ride small dirt bikes as behavior therapy, a local county project.  Registration is limited to the first 250 entrants and must be completed by July 1st, 2011. $65.00 non AMA members, $55.00 AMA member. Registration fees include T shirt, camping, BBQ dinner and music, route sheets and some of the best riding in the North Park area of Colorado.

It is their first year and they are late getting the word out, but I talked to a guy that will be marking the trails and I've been told that there will dual sport rides for riders of all levels.  They are having A, B, and C loops, where A and B will have a lot of single track and C is very easy (paved and graded dirt roads).  I've ridden some single track around there that simply winds through aspen trees and in this case ST does not always mean it is difficult since these A and B standards are dual sport, not dirt bike/enduro racing standards. On the other hand I'm sure there will be a lot of barely legal KTM's there... but your bike must be street legal.

You might be curious to see some of the terrain in this area which is covered by the Norther Colorado Trail Riders more in depth website: http://nctr.net/ (http://nctr.net/)

I'll try to check this page from time to time if you have questions, or you can PM me at AdvRider.com (snooker).  Note I'm not affiliated with this event (yet?)...  Hope to see you there, I'm planning on it!

-matt
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on June 01, 2011, 07:46:25 AM
This sounds fun!  just thinking, but anyone interested in riding out to this? We could even trailer (yikes!)and share the driving.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on June 03, 2011, 12:44:26 PM
Bump!  Last night I happened to attend the meeting for the sponsoring group and heard more about the Moose Run.  Everything has just come online in the last 2 weeks and they have done a great job of keeping the price down - you get a ride, a t-shirt, BBQ and a band for the low price!  Also I'm confident that with 3 loops there will be a ride suitable for everyone.  Especially since this group is not dirt biker oriented but more Adventure/GS types - mostly BMW guys that meet at an independent BMW shop in Ft. Collins (Beemers & More). I was told for example the B loop should be doable by an 1100GS and even includes singletrack, where the A loop could even be done by an aggressive 1100 rider (Jacyn??)...

Of course they are hoping attendance is high and actually since the Forest Service has their permit restricted to only the first 250 riders - you might consider signing up as they DO expect to fill all the slots from the Front Range target audience - but who knows??

It's only about a 5 hour drive from Rapid to Walden I'm guessing - so I'd like to hear some chatter on this?  Any interest? Questions? Pro/con?  It sounds like fun to me (maybe because it's in my own back yard but hey it's 2 hours for me at least!)

-matt
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: plumber mike on June 05, 2011, 08:08:25 AM
I will check with the planning dept. I'd like to do a ride like that.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on June 05, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
And here is the Moose Run thread on Adv: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670435 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670435).

Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on June 05, 2011, 06:36:32 PM
let me know Mike asap. i pretty much have the ok. we could ride out together if your up to it. We can leave thursday evening or friday morning.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: plumber mike on June 11, 2011, 12:19:39 PM
I'm out :(Summers pretty much booked out.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on June 15, 2011, 04:14:50 PM
bump..  I know it's DDSR rally time but....   plan ahead!   It's for the children!!!

(http://home.comcast.net/~jdeeney/NYPUM/poster.JPG)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on June 29, 2011, 08:38:05 PM
Bump. Snooker here again!

I just signed up for this! If you are like me and waiting for a good time to get a fun pass from the social director - well... now's the time! Help these guys out and sign up by July 1st so they can plan the food and t-shirts, etc.. and so they see a good turnout is coming.   The area is beautiful, here are some pics of the A/B loop type singletrack stuff: http://www.frontrangeriders.com/photos.html (http://www.frontrangeriders.com/photos.html)  Based on the description I will be doing the B loop which will include some single track designed to make you sweat a little I hear.

I'm excited to see an organized dual sport ride here - people outside the Rockies are envious of our backyard and we have so much riding but very few organized events...

... so help these hard working organizers out and sign up this week!

"it's for the children!" (just tell her that!)   ::)

You better be there Jacin and Mike and any other lurkers out there!  C'mon down - turnout is looking slim at this point so it won't be crowded at all!
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on June 29, 2011, 09:06:14 PM
i REALLY want to go, but am traveling a lot for work still. We'll see what shakes out. I would love to bring the WR ( i need to redeam myself after the GS/Moab showing).   Mike, if i drive my pickup can you sneak away and ride along for a fast trip?  anyone else? i have room for 4.....
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: plumber mike on June 30, 2011, 06:59:04 PM
I'm out. Work :( It's for the kids :)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: plumber mike on June 30, 2011, 07:00:37 PM
...and my bike still needs a radiator :(
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: torgo on July 01, 2011, 12:20:38 AM
Damn, I am going to miss this by 6 days.  Work sucks sometimes.  >:(
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 01, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
OK guys thanks for the chatter...   I hear from the inside that there will be plenty of t-shirts so you can always just show up on Friday the 15th unannounced - the only thing you might not get is the free BBQ.  What about number 1 (or whatever your name is) from Laramie?   Missed you in Moab - you should make this one it is SO close!   And Jacin I sure hope to see you there!  I'd ride my XR400 but I never bothered plating it for real (only faking it for Baja)...

So keep it in mind, I'll be there for sure and get this...  (a rare thing)...  I'm packing my camping gear onto my bike and RIDING THERE!  yeah yeah I know it's a dual sport but for me I like to pack all my shit in a cage and drive there - but this one is so close I can't justify it.  I'm packing VERY light though...  ;D

I'm planning on riding the B loop unless it is very wet  - single tracks here we come! 

cheers boyz, ride safe!
-matt                         (stuck commuting in Front range hell)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: Number Two on July 02, 2011, 01:33:55 AM
Number_Two here in Laramie.  Just got the ok from the doc to start riding again.  Not sure I could coax a scooter to the starbucks at this point.

I will track this thread pending a test ride or two.

Snooker, what bike are you riding?
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 05, 2011, 03:39:16 PM
I'll be riding my trusty BMW G650XCountry  :'(   (old picture...)   and I'm riding THERE this time, from Loveland.

(http://mattsnook.com/bmw/bmwXCountry/swingarm/IMG_5504.jpg)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: loingrader on July 05, 2011, 04:10:16 PM
geez snooker    :o

that makes it tough to ride back to camp.  i understand that bmw's are sweet and all, don't get me wrong, but i personally don't see the allure of any bike that can break like that.  i think you and plummer mike average more in repairs per year than i spent to purchase my klr.  i know, apples to oranges and all but wow.  what a break!
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on July 05, 2011, 07:50:13 PM
wait until he tells you hows fast he was going when it failed! we are lucky hes still with us
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 06, 2011, 01:10:07 AM
Quote from: loingrader on July 05, 2011, 04:10:16 PM
geez snooker    :o

that makes it tough to ride back to camp.  i understand that bmw's are sweet and all, don't get me wrong, but i personally don't see the allure of any bike that can break like that.  i think you and plummer mike average more in repairs per year than i spent to purchase my klr.  i know, apples to oranges and all but wow.  what a break!
I can't argue with your logic, porkshredder.  BMW went to a lot of aluminum based castings to make this bike lighter, and it is has issues for sure.
I don't want to hijack my own thread but I have thrashed through all of this on the XCountry thread on ADV so much that sometimes I forget that there are people out there that didn't hear the whole story.  I was on the LA Barstow 2 Vegas ride passing somebody that was going about 60 and I got tired of eating his dust, and I hit a small dip going about 70.  Both sides snapped and the bike did not go down and yeah Jacin was I ever lucky on that day.   So lucky that I went to the hospital the next day to meet another rider who was not so lucky and had a bad crash -as I felt it was part of my karma.     

It was not that big of a hit really but the swingarm was pre-stressed by a crappy oem shock that was prone to bottoming and I had to buy a different one.  But I do think my cast aluminum swingarm was a faulty casting as well as others on the off road model XChallenge have told me they have thrashed theirs and I didn't let mine bottom except the rare unavoidable ones.

Anyhow here is the web site I made to explain it all to BMW to plead my case, and at the end is a link to my ADV post that explains the whole thing if interested:
http://mattsnook.com/bmw/bmwXCountry/swingarm/big/index.htm (http://mattsnook.com/bmw/bmwXCountry/swingarm/big/index.htm)

Pics of the LAB2V ride: http://mattsnook.com/bmw/20101126LAB2Vegas/index.htm (http://mattsnook.com/bmw/20101126LAB2Vegas/index.htm)

Now back to making it to Walden,CO for the Moose Run...    Jacin?????    LoinGrater (that's how I heard it at first)...
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on July 06, 2011, 05:58:01 AM
i am still trying to put the trip together. it is a really busy time for me. work trips, visitors, etc. it might be lastminute, might not happen. I AM trying though.....
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: plumber mike on July 06, 2011, 08:07:36 AM
Hey that sounds like my life right now.

with the not so trusty xco down, it would be a long ride on the xl250.

brett- i wont admit your right  on the internet ,but you definitely make a good point.im ready  to try a klr but have no money left.maybe just a klr swingarm upgrade  ::)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: loingrader on July 06, 2011, 09:53:04 AM
to each his own, and i would be lying if i said that there aren't 6 or 7 bmw's i'd love to have in my garage. 

i just don't like that they market your bike for off road, but if people ride it off road it breaks and mother BMW acts like they are doing you a huge favor if they happen to fix it for you.  mike, your broken frame fiasco still chaps my a$$ and it wasn't even my bike!

ok, off topic rant over.

i'd love to hit the moose run.  looks like a heck of a fun time.  i'm spending all next week on tablerock lake down in southern missouri with the fam and my vaca is gone for awhile. 
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: Number Two on July 07, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
Rode for a couple hours, and felt pretty good.  I'm on PT for shoulder now, so I think I will be good to go.  I welded up my aluminum subframe, so the bike is shaping up too. 

Only hitch at the moment is getting the pig dB tested locally.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 11, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Number Two on July 07, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
Rode for a couple hours, and felt pretty good.  I'm on PT for shoulder now, so I think I will be good to go.  I welded up my aluminum subframe, so the bike is shaping up too. 

Only hitch at the moment is getting the pig dB tested locally.
Hey Number 2 .. number 2... number 2...
C'mon up the weather is shaping up as the monsoon we've had for 10 days is supposed to stop this Thursday so it should be great.  I'm doing the B loop and there is some supposedly easy single track in it, I've ridden this area before a little and it has Forest Service roads criss-crossed with motorcycle only designated single track.  I know a lot of guys like it there, of course some of it is harder and I think he is keeping that on the A loop.  There is one water crossing that is pretty swift he said, but should not be a problem.  I hope not as I cannot swamp my G650X as I don't have the goofy wrench I need to pull the spark plug out (after I take out about a million screws to get the faux gas tank off)...

And Josh and anybody else - now is the time to decide to come.  You don't HAVE to sign up ahead of time, you just are not guaranteed any of the catered BBQ - no biggie, Walden has other food places.

I'll be on my previous shown black G650X, Colo plate is "XC" and I'll have a small old bright green Eureka Timberline tent at the fairgrounds - they said in some mowed grass they'll have camping.
I will check this thread on Friday morning before I leave and I hope somebody else out there says they are coming!  (gimme your bike/license/ some way to find you info)...

Finally, check this Adv thread for the latest news: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670435&page=9 (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670435&page=9)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on July 12, 2011, 07:43:54 AM
looks like i am out. I can not sem to get my rental/basement repairs done fast enough, and have guests coming from Cnada the 24th. Thanks for the invites Snooker. Are you going ot make the fall rally so we can ride again?
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 12, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: jacin theis on July 12, 2011, 07:43:54 AM
looks like i am out. I can not sem to get my rental/basement repairs done fast enough, and have guests coming from Cnada the 24th. Thanks for the invites Snooker. Are you going ot make the fall rally so we can ride again?
<sigh> oh well next time brother man!  ...too soon to tell about the fall rally for me... until then wish me look that I don't drown my finicky little delicate aluminum horse...
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on July 12, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: Number Two on July 07, 2011, 05:25:27 PM...Only hitch at the moment is getting the pig dB tested locally.
Will the USFS ranger office in Laramie do it?? I've heard that other ones will do a sound check.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: Number Two on July 16, 2011, 01:54:25 AM
Sound check didn't pan out.  I guess I'm going to bail on this one.  The hole in my exhaust is big enough for birds to nest in.  Snooker, have fun.  We need to get together for a ride at some point.

In other news, I finally laid hands on a map to the trails at Albany, so I know where I'm headed.  100 miles o singletrack here I come.
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on July 27, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
Where is Matt on giving us the report on this?? Was it great? Should we all makle plans now for next year? I really wanted to make it, but there arent enough weekend in the summer.....
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: snooker on August 07, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: jacin theis on July 27, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
Where is Matt on giving us the report on this?? Was it great? Should we all makle plans now for next year? I really wanted to make it, but there arent enough weekend in the summer.....
aHa!  so there IS interest??
Yes this was a great time - awesome organized rides with A, B and C, and free BBQ and a band on Sat, free camping, yet AMA sanctioned ride (was in the back of the AMA Motorcyclist magazine I noticed)... plus a t-shirt, all for $55.   You should all plan it for next year.  For you Jacin, I would trailer your Yammy WR250 because the single track is awesome (the B loop only had about 10 miles of the easiest single track, lots of 4WD and some graded dirt and pavement, but the A loop had plenty of plated KTM guys and the single track is really nice stuff, and the C loop was 90% graded dirt and pavement but beautiful.  There were about 100 riders but did not feel big at all.
(http://mattsnook.com/bmw/20110616Walden/IMG_6101.JPG)

Here are some links to more pics I took:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16504860&postcount=183 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16504860&postcount=183)
and this link explains the picture to follow:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16504589&postcount=5474 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16504589&postcount=5474)
(http://mattsnook.com/bmw/bmwXCountry/GearShiftLever/IMG_6077.JPG)
Title: Re: Moose Run - Dual Sport Rally - Walden, CO - July 15-17
Post by: jacin theis on August 08, 2011, 07:29:36 AM
About time we heard how it was!! thanks Matt. I really was trying to make it this year, but had too many commiments. So, i do want to get a group to go next year. Anyone?? Matt keep us informed on the dates. I will wetch the site also. Looks like a great time. Sorry i was lame...